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In the last year or so one of the greater pleasures in fighting the death penalty has been meeting similarly committed dp opponents at protests staged outside the US Embassy in London. These have been organised by Voices For Death Row Inmates and included several motivational speakers. Numbers have been relatively low, but the sense of purpose and strength of feeling were magnificent. I look forward to another, which is apparently planned for autumn 2011.

Another group springing up doesn't make any great difference. The anti death penalty movement is far too fractured and splintered in my view. Across the whole field of opposition to capital punishment only in fighting individual cases does the movement show any sign of pulling together and the most obvious examples at present concern Troy Davis and Linda Carty. Such significant questions surround both convictions that execution of either should be unthinkable - but I have no confidence Georgia or Texas respectively would let serious question marks stand in the way of execution. A united movement engaged in coherent action with a strong, consistent message would have used all the prtoblems of innocents being ewxecuted, botched executions and a long litany of flawed convictions to win the moral argument against the death penalty.

As it is, the more likely reasons for abolition at present are the exhorbitant cost of the death penalty and ongoing controversy over the chemicals used in lethal injection. As individual states see how money could be better spent than in pursuing death sentences they will turn away......economic commonsense says they must. The myth has been exploded that the death penalty was cheaper than life sentences. That just isn't true. I don't mind why they abolish so long as they do. I always believed abolition would come in piecemeal manner......and so it will.

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I think the reason why the Anti-DP movement is so fragmented is because there are so many different reasons for people being against capital punishment.

For me I see cases such as the Hayes case and think "That man really does not deserve to live": However I do not support capital punishment for the reasons that many share, such as executing the innocent and sending innocent people to death row. I am primarily against death rows even before you get to murdering the innocent in a death chamber; keeping the guilty in such conditions is cruel and unusual punishment when you consider the miniscule number of places around the world who would subject its inmates to such conditions when it is not due to disciplinary problems, to keep and innocent person on death row is just criminal and deserves a life sentence for anybody who supplies false or misleading evidence to a court with the intent of obstructing justice.

I am also against capital punishment because sometimes even the Anti-DP movement gets hoodwinked by science; Take the Roger Coleman case for instance, the only DNA that was possible to test for was Mitochondrial DNA which did not exclude him as a suspect: However if you look here you will see that the real murderer may have been Roger's brother who was the initial and more probable killer.

Events over recent years has shown that every conviction must be considered suspect because forensic evidence has been corrupted and in one case twleve people identified an innocent man and he spent many years on death row.

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It is too many narrow groups fighting for individuals and it doesn't help, you're right. If those in opposition to the death penalty united we would have seen it abolished long ago. Exclamation
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